My question is to the Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Defence. In relation to Victoria Barracks in Sydney, the minister has said:

It is not my aim to see defence manage the oldest wine cellar in Australia.

Former chief of defence force and governor-general Sir Peter Cosgrove, one of our greatest living Australians, has described that as 'the most stupid thing I've ever heard'. Minister—and you know I've got great respect for you, but why do you think you know more about defence heritage than a man who has served this country valiantly in uniform for 40 years?