Yes, we have days coming up where we say, 'Lest we forget.' We say, 'We will remember.' I can tell you now it means nothing coming from this government side. 'Lest we forget' is something that we all have a commitment to do. We go to the War Memorial and we see the names etched on the walls. We see their families. We see people crying. They're asking you to be a leader today and scrap this cap.

There is nothing worse than this cap being placed on our veterans. These people who put on the uniform deserve much more respect than you're giving them. Minister, you're sitting here today. I hope that you stand up here right now and agree that this cap shouldn't be there. We should scrap the cap. If not, I hope you stand up and resign.