The answer to your question as to whether I have met with these people, is no. In relation to the actual organisation, my understanding is that what they were referring to does not necessarily have anything to do with this particular piece of legislation. In relation to people being able to present views, anybody is entitled to present a submission to this parliament, to a Senate committee, and it is for the committee to decide, whether or not, based on the rules of the Senate, they accept that particular submission.