Mr President, I ask a further supplementary question. Senator Conroy clearly does not understand that, if he denies in those circumstances that there is waste and mismanagement, he can also provide a guarantee. But obviously he does not understand the sequencing of this line of inquiry. My further supplementary question is: as the Minister for Finance and Deregulation and Deputy Prime Minister have clearly lost control of spending in the $14.7 billion schools program, when will the minister call in the Auditor-General to get to the bottom of this debacle?