David Pocock (ACT, Independent) | Hansard source

Minister, you just told me that your aim was also to stop the normalisation of gambling amongst young people. Is your aim to reduce the number of ads on television, or is it to stop the normalisation of gambling amongst young Australians? Maybe you can talk us through what your aims are with this legislation. Every time we raise something, you say, 'Well, that's also an aim,' but then you keep coming back to this thing about just reducing the number of ads, despite there being no evidence to suggest that'll actually work.