Tim Ayres (NSW, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Industry and Innovation) | Hansard source

The senator says that, out of the more than a quarter of a million Australians who have access to homes through this scheme, 1,500 or so have sold them. Well, people do sell homes sometimes as well as buy them. It's hard to buy homes if people aren't selling homes. Honestly:

Two years ago, Nicole Pengilly's hope of buying a home in Brisbane receded with every inspection she attended.

"You could see the house prices going up as I was looking," she said. "The amount I could borrow hadn't changed, so it just felt like it was slipping away."

She said, because of this scheme:

I'm just so excited to get into a place that I own, and I can just settle and stay and not have that fear looming over me …

Look her in the eyes and use that same hyperbolic political nonsense— (Time expired)