Katy Gallagher (ACT, Australian Labor Party, Minister for the Public Service) | Hansard source

Sorry, Senator Chandler. It's difficult to listen to your question and try to get advice on your question at the same time. I understand your question essentially related to why we don't have that number. It's not broken down in that way for reporting through the budget process at an aggregate level. That's not how Treasury provide those numbers. So I'm not in a position to give you a breakdown in the way that you're seeking to break that number down.