Senator, you are one of the people in this place who do understand these issues, and you would know that the consequences of the cutting of $2.5 billion from aged care by the government of which you were a part have been long lasting. It is the case that we want to have more aged-care beds. It is the case that governments know that, if you don't have sufficient support for older Australians, it does put pressure on public hospitals— (Time expired)