The point that I would make—and, again, I don't accept the characterisation of Senator Wong's contribution—about the way we approach foreign affairs and our international relationships is that we consider our national interest. Now, in the time I've been in this chamber, I struggle to recall an occasion when the Greens political party actually accepted that any of the national security threats or challenges that have been brought into this chamber were real. I struggle to recall an occasion when any of you accepted that the measures that have been contemplated by this chamber were necessary in relation to national security questions—