Maria Kovacic (NSW, Liberal Party, Shadow Assistant Minister to the Leader of the Opposition) Share this | Hansard source

To be very, very clear: we're not seeking a carve-out of penalty rates for small businesses. Nobody has suggested that at any point in time and nor is that, in any way, shape or form, even possible. We don't seek it nor do we want it. This is where I'm confused. On the one hand, you're telling me there's no material change. On the other hand, you're saying you haven't sought an exemption for small businesses because you think that everybody should pay penalty rates, whether they're a small business or a large business. Which is it? Is it that there is no change, or is there going to be some kind of significant change that you see coming forward as a result of this legislation that you want to ensure that all businesses comply with? That's what we're trying to understand. Either there is a change or there isn't a change. If there is no change, what is the purpose of the legislation?