Can I first make the point to Senator McKenzie that the policy that she is advocating, as the alternative to the policies that this government is putting forward, is a policy which would require some $600 billion worth of spend on the budget and will result in more expensive energy. I just want everyone to be really clear, when Senator McKenzie talks about the costs to consumers and when she talks about the increase of costs passed through to consumers, that she is advocating a policy position which will, in fact, increase energy prices, which would result in a worse position for consumers.