The advice I have is that—I'm sorry; I'm just trying to work out where this brief is from. Minister Burney and the Northern Territory Attorney-General have met with the board. It is critical that the board ensure that Aboriginal people that need services from NAAJA get them. We do agree that it is time for the board of NAAJA to show leadership when it comes to family violence. We all have a responsibility to lead by example.

Honourable senators interjecting—