Senate debates
Monday, 25 March 2024
Bills
Defence Amendment (Safeguarding Australia's Military Secrets) Bill 2024, Defence Trade Controls Amendment Bill 2024; In Committee
5:47 pm
David Shoebridge (NSW, Australian Greens) Share this | Hansard source
My question was about Mr Nockels's evidence. Of course, Mr Nockels is apparently the senior defence expert inside the department who deals with this legislation and will be dealing with the permits. His evidence to the Senate inquiry was that, as a result of this legislation, only dozens of additional permits would be required per year. Given the higher education sector and industry are saying it's probably tens of thousands, does the government back in Mr Nockels, or is he just making it up?
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