I thank Senator Shoebridge for his question. I don't agree with your assertion there, Senator. I'll make a couple of points. I made this point on Sky TV yesterday: I think that Senator Wong is shaping up to be one of the finest foreign ministers that we've had in this country—certainly in my lifetime. I think of all the things that she has done—not just in the Pacific and not just—

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It may be provocative but I think it's true, and I can see most of my colleagues here nodding. She—

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