FARRELL (—) (): I thank Senator Henderson for her question on this important topic, and, of course, it's got that extra element of importance as a result of the cybersecurity threats that we saw last week and over the weekend with respect to Optus.

I think the starting point for a discussion about this, and I think this is what we've discovered, is how little the previous government did in this space, and that the problems that we've now inherited are problems because we—