Scott Ryan (President) Share this | Hansard source

Senator Farrell, I do allow flexibility in making a point on direct relevance, but I do ask that senators draw it to that. Senator McKenzie, this was a factual question asking about programs, not rationale or commentary around the programs. The minister's entitled to list programs and be directly relevant or answer in a form that Senator Farrell would seek, but it's not a place for commentary around programs.