Senator Patrick, points of order are for issues of Senate standing orders, not for issues of debate or fact. That is an issue for debate. You can have an opportunity to debate it in the Senate at another time.

Senator Patrick interjecting—

No, the senator is debating a matter of interpretation and fact. It is not a matter that is outside the standing orders that you have a disagreement about the way it's used. I don't have Odgers in front of me, but, even if I did, it would not be a matter of standing orders. You have the opportunity at another time to bring the Senate's attention to a different interpretation.