Senator Colbeck is directly relevant to the question asked. He is explaining that he has daily conversations with the leader of the cabinet and, indeed, with all of the ministers who are part of the key cabinet subcommittee, the Expenditure Review Committee, and others as appropriate. Of course, in a moment of crisis that is what Australians would expect their Minister for Aged Care and Senior Australians to do. The minister is being directly relevant to the question.