To absolutely clarify that position, I said that I rejected the premise of the 600,000 people on whom Senator Kitching was basing her question. As I said, it seems really interesting that, at one stage, we had the opposition saying, 'No-one gets a leave pass,' and now, post the election, when they have been unsuccessful in victory, we somehow seem to have a completely different thing—'everybody gets a leave pass.' It's like all debts are waived and we don't have to pursue the sustainability of our welfare system.

Senator Wong interjecting—