This is exactly the point, Senator. If you think the minister's got nothing to hide, why won't you allow the inquiry to demonstrate that? If you reckon there's nothing to hide, why are you working so hard to make sure he doesn't have to answer questions and that departmental officers don't have to answer questions?

Senator Cormann interjecting—

Senator Cormann—he claims this is politics. When have you ever asked a cabinet mate to have a meeting with a department because there's a problem that related to one of your properties? Tell us when you did that.