My question is to the Minister for Foreign Affairs, Senator Payne. I refer to the minister, who has conceded that the Liberal Party has 'a very serious issue concerning the role of women in the parliamentary process and also in the efforts to engage more across the community'. I also refer to reports that Senator Payne chaired a recent meeting where the Liberal member for Gilmore, Ann Sudmalis, lost control of her FEC. Can the minister confirm she chaired the meeting and, if so, whether the minister observed any behaviour which confirmed the concerns she has raised?