I think you heard me do so at the time.

Senator Kim Carr interjecting—

Senator Carr, while I'm ruling! I was actually doing that at the time, prior to you raising the point of order. I remind all senators to at least remain silent while I am speaking.

Senator Wong interjecting—

Senator Wong!

Senator Williams interjecting—

Senator Williams, I'm capable of—

Senator Sterle interjecting—

You're not drafted here, Senator Sterle. You're free to leave. On the point of order, Senator Patrick, I cannot instruct the minister how to answer the question. He was being directly relevant to part of the question asked.