Senate debates Bills
National Security Legislation Amendment (Espionage and Foreign Interference) Bill 2018, Foreign Influence Transparency Scheme Bill 2018; In Committee
Zed Seselja ACT, Liberal Party, Assistant Minister for Science, Jobs and Innovation
11:08 am
In terms of that example, the conduct which would need to be covert would be the conduct where one is seeking to influence the outcome or the process. It is not merely in communicating using WhatsApp, in your example. It's impossible to see how that, in any way, could be seen as covert conduct which is engaging in the influence of these various processes. It's simply communicating with others. But you're not acting covertly in those circumstances, in the influencing of the process itself.
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