Senate debates

Thursday, 28 June 2018


National Security Legislation Amendment (Espionage and Foreign Interference) Bill 2018, Foreign Influence Transparency Scheme Bill 2018; In Committee

11:08 am

Photo of Zed SeseljaZed Seselja (ACT, Liberal Party, Assistant Minister for Science, Jobs and Innovation) Share this | Hansard source

In terms of that example, the conduct which would need to be covert would be the conduct where one is seeking to influence the outcome or the process. It is not merely in communicating using WhatsApp, in your example. It's impossible to see how that, in any way, could be seen as covert conduct which is engaging in the influence of these various processes. It's simply communicating with others. But you're not acting covertly in those circumstances, in the influencing of the process itself.


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