Senate debates

Thursday, 28 June 2018

Bills

National Security Legislation Amendment (Espionage and Foreign Interference) Bill 2018; In Committee

5:47 pm

Photo of Rachel SiewertRachel Siewert (WA, Australian Greens) Share this | Hansard source

Sorry, with all due respect, you haven't answered it. You've just said it wouldn't, so I want to know: why wouldn't it? This is what people are actually asking: why wouldn't it? Section (e) says that 'national security' means any of the following: 'the country’s political, military or economic relations with another country or other countries'. People may be trying to do that, so the government's paying attention. So why would it not constitute an offence? I genuinely don't understand why it wouldn't constitute an offence. These are real-life scenarios that I'm talking about. It's not a hypothetical situation. These are the sorts of things that happen in 'activist land' and in 'campaigning land'. The reason we wanted to send this off to an inquiry was to get these sorts of questions answered. That hasn't happened. This is the place we do that. Interpretation will come back to this debate once it starts to get implemented. Why won't it?

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