The ABC have legislated independence in relation to operational matters and programming matters, so it will be a matter for the ABC as to how they organise themselves in line with the budget that they will have in the next triennium. I don't think that there is yet to be a public sector organisation that has reached a state of administrative perfection. I don't believe that the ABC have achieved that state. There is scope in all public sector organisations to always strive to be even better stewards of the taxpayer dollar, and that's what I'm sure the ABC will do.