The Turnbull government's position in relation to penalty rates is very clear. We have always respected the decision of the independent umpire. It's those on the other side who have a record, as you know, Senator Cameron, when it comes to penalty rates. I only caught glimpses of Sally McManus's speech today at the Press Club, but I have to say it was riddled with hypocrisy, because in relation to penalty rates there is only one person in the parliament who has directly negotiated deals—