I find it disappointing that the minister hasn't had these conversations as yet. I ask a supplementary question: when will the minister hold these meetings? We know already that Mr Don Burke has been named, but we also know—

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Senator O'Sullivan interjecting—

I will take some of the interjections from over there. We are talking about the sexual harassment of women. What is the minister going to do about it? (Time expired)

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