Yes, on a point of order. It may be unusual for me to be defending Senator Hanson, but Senator Hanson-Young had her say. She talked for 15 minutes. It has been a continual banter through the whole of Senator Hanson's speech. It's not fair.

The TEMPORARY CHAIR: Thank you, Senator Hinch. You are quite right: senators are entitled to be heard in silence. I remind all senators of that.