At least you did not talk about programmatic specificity!

Senator Dastyari interjecting—

Senator Dastyari is familiar with who I am referring to. Has the government considered measures to more accurately measure the amount of money that goes to illegal wagering services? For instance, has the government inquired of the banks or financial institutions to determine by virtue of the merchant numbers for these illegal, overseas, online gambling operations, to determine the amount lost in that way? Has an effort been made? Has anyone in the Commonwealth, whether it be ACMA or the AFP, gone to the banks to say, 'Please cooperate with us. Here are the merchant numbers of Casino.com and Lottoland.com'—well, presumably Lottoland.com operates under a licence from the Northern Territory—'and those that are clearly unauthorised illegal transactions under the Interactive Gambling Act 2001'?