Ian Macdonald (Queensland, Liberal Party) Share this | Hansard source

Not at all—I am in fact congratulating you, Mr Acting Deputy President, on abiding by those standing orders and applying them so religiously. That is what we expect our chairmen to do. It is a rule that sometimes perhaps is not as observed as it should be. But I am glad, Mr Acting Deputy President, that you are doing it, because it is an important one. We should not talk directly to other senators. But I ask Senator Rhiannon and Senator McKim to explain to me just how much they get from the unions and why they think all of these things—the Williamson stuff, the—