Yes. Senator Conroy is shocked that it is a dodgy system, but maybe one day he will understand. It thwarted the will of the voters when the last seat was won—

Senator Conroy interjecting—

Yes, Senator Conroy. And here you have a system, and yes it resulted in Senator Madigan coming in instead of Labor, who in all fairness actually deserved to win.

Senator Conroy interjecting—

You dispute that, do you, Senator Conroy? Do you dispute that in that election—