You are right, Senator, it was five.: 1 Dec 2015: Senate debates (OpenAustralia.org)

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Higher Education Support Amendment (VET FEE-HELP Reform) Bill 2015; Second Reading

Tuesday, 1 December 2015 Senate

Deborah O'Neill NSW, Australian Labor Party

5:34 pm

You are right, Senator, it was five.

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