Frankly, I reject a number of the spurious assertions in Senator Cameron's question, which are just his normal trade union spin, and we are used to all of those. But it is disappointing that the Community and Public Sector Union continues to take industrial action while we are working towards this new agreement. Despite the union claims to the contrary, the number of staff who have actually participated in industrial action in the department has been relatively low to date—

Senator Cameron interjecting—