I think the Australian people fully recognise that the ABC can make some savings, without the need to cut programs. Just one example: for the broadcasting of the Asian Cup, SBS put in a bid for three-quarters of a million dollars that they could have completely recouped with advertising dollars. What did the ABC do? It came along and put in a bid of one and a half million dollars and no money to be recouped—a $1.5 million expense to the Australian taxpayer.