John Hogg (President) Share this | Hansard source

Yes, but you then sought it by leave. I am interpreting it—say if I am interpreting wrongly—that if you are doing it under 191 leave was not granted. If you are doing it under standing order 190, 'Personal explanations', it says:

By leave of the Senate, a senator may explain matters of a personal nature, although there is no question before the Senate, ...

That is the point that is made in 190. It goes on:

but such matters may not be debated.

Say you had sought that under 190; 190 is by leave.