Mr President, all I can say is that I looked directly at Senator Ronaldson when I incorporated it yesterday; he was in the chamber. If somehow my claim of 'knowingly' is misleading, given that I was looking at him and I incorporated it in the chamber I do not see what it is I have to withdraw. I am amazed that Senator Ronaldson seeks to deny the claim. But if that is your request, Mr President, I will withdraw if that helps.