I am the Minister representing the Minister for Families, Housing, Community Services and Indigenous Affairs in question time today. It is the case I was not present at FaHCSIA estimates, so I have no knowledge of that discussion. But I am happy to take on notice the matters you refer to. As you know, I do not know about the remarks, I do not know the individual, I do not know the context and so I will not comment on any of that other than make the remarks I have made. But I will take the question on notice and will ask the minister to respond to the issues you have raised.