Mr President, I know the minister has a minute and 26 seconds to go, in which maybe he might come to the question, and I know that you have made allowance for prologue and preamble in answers, but the fact is that he was asked by how much electricity prices would rise and nothing he has said is even remotely relevant to that issue. That is the point that Senator Macdonald was trying to make when he took the point of order, and his point of order, with respect, is right. If it is not remotely relevant, how can it be directly relevant?