Mr President, I ask a supplementary question. What can possibly be secretive about the $13.8 billion that has been paid by NBN Co. to Telstra? Someone has to pay for it. You indicated in the statement that you have given us that it will be paid by 2020. What I was asking—and I am repeating this after asking about what is secretive—is: how much of that will be government debt and equity and how much will there be when NBN makes its own funds? What is the expected changeover date?