Mr President, I ask a supplementary question. Is the minister aware of a comment made by another asylum seeker as reported in ABC News Online? The asylum seeker, again in broken English, said:

Kevin Rudd—he’s changed everything about refugee. If I go to Australia now, different, different … Maybe accepted but when John Howard, president, Australia, he said come back to Indonesia.

Would the minister agree that the government’s polices are a significant factor in the sales pitch of people smugglers?