House debates

Tuesday, 8 August 2023

Questions without Notice

Uluru Statement from the Heart

2:56 pm

Photo of Dan TehanDan Tehan (Wannon, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Immigration and Citizenship) Share this | | Hansard source

My question is to the Prime Minister. Does the Prime Minister remain committed to a national treaty, as called for in the Uluru Statement from the Heart?

Photo of Anthony AlbaneseAnthony Albanese (Grayndler, Australian Labor Party, Prime Minister) Share this | | Hansard source

Well, the scare campaign is running out of steam. It's like a deflated whoopee cushion! It has made a loud noise and it's a bit uncomfortable, but then they've just moved on and on from one thing to the other. We've had a range of them. The Leader of the Opposition said that the Voice will re-racialise our nation. He's seemingly unaware of the racial provisions that are in the current Constitution—seemingly unaware.

The former Deputy Prime Minister went one further, and said this—

Photo of Michael McCormackMichael McCormack (Riverina, National Party, Shadow Minister for International Development and the Pacific) Share this | | Hansard source

Which one?

Photo of Anthony AlbaneseAnthony Albanese (Grayndler, Australian Labor Party, Prime Minister) Share this | | Hansard source

And there have been a few! But there's only one of them who would have said this because, you know the old saying—

Honourable members interjecting

This is what he said: 'The Voice will be a delineation of people and their rights. The Civil Service Act of Germany in 1933—

Photo of Ms Catherine KingMs Catherine King (Ballarat, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Infrastructure, Transport, Regional Development and Local Government) Share this | | Hansard source

Who exactly are we—

Photo of Anthony AlbaneseAnthony Albanese (Grayndler, Australian Labor Party, Prime Minister) Share this | | Hansard source

That was the member for New England—

Honourable members interjecting

Photo of Milton DickMilton Dick (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

The member for New England is also seeking the call, but I'll hear from the member for Wannon first of all.

Photo of Barnaby JoyceBarnaby Joyce (New England, National Party, Shadow Minister for Veterans' Affairs) Share this | | Hansard source

Speaker—

Photo of Milton DickMilton Dick (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

Member for New England, I'll just do one at a time.

Opposition members interjecting

Order! Members on my right.

Photo of Dan TehanDan Tehan (Wannon, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Immigration and Citizenship) Share this | | Hansard source

Thanks, Speaker. The question was very clear. It was about a national treaty: do you stand by your commitment for a national treaty or not?

Photo of Milton DickMilton Dick (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

Resume your seat, you haven't stated what the point of order is.

Photo of Dan TehanDan Tehan (Wannon, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Immigration and Citizenship) Share this | | Hansard source

It's relevance—

Honourable members interjecting

Photo of Milton DickMilton Dick (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

Resume your seat. We got there in the end! Is the member for New England still—

Photo of Barnaby JoyceBarnaby Joyce (New England, National Party, Shadow Minister for Veterans' Affairs) Share this | | Hansard source

Speaker, I'll do it after question time.

Photo of Milton DickMilton Dick (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

The question was about the Prime Minister's commitment to a national treaty, called for in the Uluru statement. As I reminded members in the last question, the Prime Minister needs to make his remarks directly relevant.

Photo of Anthony AlbaneseAnthony Albanese (Grayndler, Australian Labor Party, Prime Minister) Share this | | Hansard source

The Uluru statement—

Photo of Sussan LeySussan Ley (Farrer, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Women) Share this | | Hansard source

Why don't you fight for what you believe in instead of reading all these stupid quotes?

Photo of Milton DickMilton Dick (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

Order! The Prime Minister will pause. The Deputy Leader of the Opposition had some time out yesterday. I'm sure she wants to stay for the remainder of question time today. The Prime Minister has the call.

Photo of Anthony AlbaneseAnthony Albanese (Grayndler, Australian Labor Party, Prime Minister) Share this | | Hansard source

The Uluru statement, on the one page, says:

We seek a Makarrata Commission to supervise a process of agreement-making between governments and First Nations and truth-telling about our history.

Well, we're in the post-truth world over there. Indeed, Senator Cash tried to up the Barnaby Joyce comment and said, 'if we put the voice into the Constitution … we're effectively announcing an apartheid type state'. That is what they have had to say. The deputy leader said that the Voice can take a view on everything, from submarines to parking tickets.

Photo of Milton DickMilton Dick (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

Order. We've had one point of order on relevance. I'll hear from the leader of—sorry, the member for New England.

Photo of Barnaby JoyceBarnaby Joyce (New England, National Party, Shadow Minister for Veterans' Affairs) Share this | | Hansard source

You flatter me, Mr Speaker! At the very least he could use the proper term. I'm the member for New England.

Photo of Milton DickMilton Dick (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

I'm sure the Prime Minister will ensure that he uses the correct titles at all times.

Photo of Anthony AlbaneseAnthony Albanese (Grayndler, Australian Labor Party, Prime Minister) Share this | | Hansard source

The Leader of the Opposition—this might go to why he's objecting here—said this to justify his opposition: 'It's not just the Voice. It's about truth-telling.' That got them worried over there. Senator Hanson said that it would turn the Northern Territory into an Aboriginal black state.

Photo of Milton DickMilton Dick (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

Order. The Prime Minister will pause. The minister for infrastructure will cease interjecting as well. There is far too much noise today. I give the call to the Leader of the Opposition.

Photo of Peter DuttonPeter Dutton (Dickson, Liberal Party, Leader of the Opposition) Share this | | Hansard source

Mr Speaker, my question is to you, as to whether you will rule this particular contribution out of order. It is clearly out of order, Mr Speaker, and it is defying your earlier remarks. I haven't finished—

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The leader will pause.

Photo of Peter DuttonPeter Dutton (Dickson, Liberal Party, Leader of the Opposition) Share this | | Hansard source

Mr Speaker, for the benefit of the House, the question was this: Does the Prime Minister remain committed to a national treaty, as called for in the Uluru Statement from the Heart? It was nothing beyond that. Can this Prime Minister answer a question honestly or not? Mr Speaker, can you please provide a ruling as to whether he is in order or not?

Photo of Milton DickMilton Dick (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

I give the call to the Leader of the House.

Photo of Mr Tony BurkeMr Tony Burke (Watson, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations) Share this | | Hansard source

Mr Speaker, I simply draw your attention to the fact that a point of order on direct relevance can only be raised once. The Leader of the Opposition knew that and decided to use a point of order for the purpose of making a speech, which he knew was out of order.

Photo of Luke HowarthLuke Howarth (Petrie, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Defence Industry) Share this | | Hansard source

That's not correct.

Photo of Milton DickMilton Dick (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

The member for Petrie would like a go as well! You'll need to state the point of order, not give a commentary or a statement.

Photo of Luke HowarthLuke Howarth (Petrie, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Defence Industry) Share this | | Hansard source

Mr Speaker, the Leader of the House is incorrect. The opposition leader was asking you to rule on a point of order. It wasn't on relevance at all.

Photo of Milton DickMilton Dick (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

The member for Petrie can resume his seat and not take any more points of order for the rest of the week. I give the call to the Leader of the House.

Photo of Mr Tony BurkeMr Tony Burke (Watson, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations) Share this | | Hansard source

Mr Speaker, I simply also raise a point for the Speaker. This is something that doesn't happen during question time, but if questions to the Speaker are asked they're asked at the end of question time and on administrative matters.

Photo of Milton DickMilton Dick (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

The Prime Minister has 30 seconds remaining for his answer. I'm just going to say that I need him to be relevant to the question. If he is not relevant to the question I will call him to order.

Photo of Anthony AlbaneseAnthony Albanese (Grayndler, Australian Labor Party, Prime Minister) Share this | | Hansard source

Thanks, Mr Speaker. The Leader of the Opposition in his statement made reference to the Uluru Statement from the Heart, which was in the question. The member for New England actually said in May that this might be the last budget we have if this craziness got up; there are not going to be any budgets. Perhaps the Leader of the Opposition might want to think about this statement:

… the Prime Minister's obsession with the Voice means that he's taken his eye off the ball when it comes to economic policy …

There are no economic questions in here. We know who's obsessed—just them. (Time expired)