That is why they will not pay a different rebate from when they're 64 to when they hit their 65th birthday—no difference whatsoever.

Those opposite at the last election, under their then shadow treasurer, promised higher deficits and higher debt. They've already racked up $110 billion in unfunded promises, and then they want to add this to it. Well, we know last time round they ripped the guts out of the public hospital system and didn't invest in aged care. What we are doing is we've put $25 billion additional into the public hospital system through the states and territories. We're funding urgent care clinics. We've tripled the bulk-billing incentive. And what we have also done here is a sensible reform so that there is additional funding available for aged care.