I take the interjections from those opposite. The Nats claim to speak for the bush, but they say that massive increases in exports of red meat is somehow a bad thing. This agreement provides for eight times the access for our beef—eight times. Is that better or worse? Instead of 4,000 tonnes, it is 35,000 tonnes—making an enormous difference—plus five times the increase in access for sheepmeat.

Opposition members interjecting—