That is exactly why we are doing this—so that we allow more people to see a GP for free. But there's a big distinction between the two sides of the parliament. We, on this side, think that people value Medicare because of what it says about our country—that we look after people. The other side say things like this:

The price signal is about somebody paying a bit extra when they go to the doctor and not receiving a bulk-billed consultation … That's what we mean by the price signal, and I think that's vital.

Who said that? It was the health minister at the time—the health minister who followed Peter Dutton, who tried to abolish bulk-billing altogether. (Time expired)