And then you have the farmers who are having their irrigation water taken away from them. How the hell are we supposed to grow food and fibre when you don't have water flowing down those irrigation channels?

Ask any small-business person—and you've got time. After this week, you can go home and you can walk down your streets and you can ask any small-business person or any householder: 'Are you better off now than what you were before May 2022?' 'No,' will be the answer.

Government members interjecting—