Order, members on my left! There is far too much noise. The minister is going to pause.

The Minister for Social Services will cease interjecting. The minister was asked for a number in the question. As the chamber knows, under the standing orders, I can't compel a minister to give a number, whether it be a yes/no response, a figure or a fact. I can't compel the minister, and I know that's what the deputy leader is after, but I can compel him to be directly relevant to the question about the numbers of people who are enrolled in fee-free TAFE and about the difficulties around the project. But I'll hear from the Deputy Leader of the Opposition because she is entitled to raise a point of order.