In fact, maybe they should have been listening, because I did directly go to the question. The shadow minister could perhaps listen. She could perhaps also have regard to the explanation that was given in estimates last night of this issue and the data that we keep. I say again though that we are interested in free TAFE providing Australians with the skills that they want to get gainful employment, and I am frankly baffled that the Leader of the Opposition and the Deputy Leader of the Opposition want to talk this down.