I am talking about ongoing programs usually funded for the full four years of a budget's forward estimates—in this case, the adult public dental scheme, which delivers vital dental services to 180,000 pensioners and lower income Australians every single year. It is not clear to me whether the former government deliberately intended to cut these services or just wanted to make their last budget look better. Perhaps the Leader of the Opposition, as a member of the budget committee, the ERC, can enlighten us on which one it was. (Time expired)