If he's offended by that, he should see what the business community are saying about them in private. He should have a chat to the National Farmers Federation, or the Australian Industry Group about manufacturing, or the Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry, or the Business Council of Australia about how irrelevant they have become.

I haven't always been close on all issues to those on the crossbenches, but, I tell you what, they were prepared to engage constructively and at least behave with a bit more maturity than those who jokingly call themselves the alternative— (Time expired)