Barnaby Joyce (New England, National Party, Leader of the Nationals) Share this | Hansard source

It is not exceptional that you trust competent modelling agencies. It's not exceptional that you think that DISER is competent at their job, that McKinsey is competent at their job, that departmental officials didn't just walk off the street. Unless he's got the expert knowledge, which I presume the member for Watson doesn't have, then he would be better to rely on the people who are experts on it, and those are the people such as DISER.

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